Eli Manning vs Matt Ryan – all you need to do is say their names to NFL fans and you’ll receive very different reactions. “Talented young quarterback, a winner with unlimited potential,” seems to be the sentiment surrounding Ryan. Fans typically react to Eli with a shake of the head and an initial scoff of some sort. “Peyton’s dim-witted younger brother, the guy can’t decide if he prefers throwing interceptions or game winning touchdowns,” is the general inkling. Fair assessments or not, Eli is the veteran and the proud owner of a Super Bowl ring.
Having ventured into enemy territory this weekend, I found myself killing time at Penn Station by strolling around Madison Square Garden. This served as inspiration for several New York inspired stories that we’ll publish this week, starting with this one. As they say, keep your friends close but your enemies closer.
My brethren in New York City has proven, as usual, to have very strange opinions on the younger Manning. They laughed at my musings as to whether the Giants would be a better team with Ryan as their quarterback. They were quick to cite Manning’s five 4th quarter comebacks this season, but failed to realize that if he personally hadn’t turned the ball over 24 times, it wouldn’t have taken 5 fourth quarter comebacks to squeak into the playoffs. One Giants fan went to far as to tell me that Eli has never blown a meaningful game in his NFL career. Yes, let it sink in, digest that one….. OK. For the record, aside from 2007 in which Eli won the Super Bowl, he’s made the playoffs on three other occasions; 2005, 2006 and 2008. In those three playoff appearances Eli is 0-3, with 1 touchdown, 6 interceptions, and a quarterback rating of 54. Enough said.
So onward with the Ryan comparison. These guys are especially fun to compare as they’re both about 6’4 and 218 pounds, so they’re working with very similar frames. Eli has now played eight NFL seasons to Ryan’s four – I’m going to compare them over the course of their respective careers, rather than on each quarterback’s first four seasons. Let’s start by taking a look at their average season during their career.
Eli Manning
.579 winning percentage
3788 yards
25 touchdowns
17 interceptions
9 fumbles
58.4 completion percentage
82.1 QB rating
Matt Ryan:
.693 winning percentage
3559 yards
24 touchdowns
11 interceptions
5 fumbles
60.9 completion percentage
88.4 rating
Based off of these numbers, any Giants fan would be crazy not to prefer Matt Ryan as their QB as opposed to Eli – he’s simply been better. That said, we all know how much emphasis is put on playoff performance – where Eli is 4-3 with a ring and Matt Ryan is 0-2.
Needless to say, I think it’s fair to call Matt Ryan the more talented quarterback. He’s also four years younger than Eli, so he’s got a lot of football left in front of him. But he’ll need to start having some success in the playoffs if he wants to look back at his NFL legacy one day and be considered a better player than Eli Manning. Today’s Giants-Falcons game is the perfect place to start.
Yeah I would be crazy to want eli. Ryan is so good he put zero today.
Zero he did, which had a lot to do with the Giants defense. As the article says, he’s done it in the regular season. Now he needs to do it in the post season.
well eli has done it in both, playing in an outdoor stadium, ryan plays in a dome atleast 9 times a year.
Eli’s last 6 playoff games he is averaging 260 yards, 2 touchdowns,.6 picks, with 5 wins. I will take it.
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… you might want to count fumbles lost as opposed to fumbles when counting turnovers instead of just fumbles because eli has lost 4, making it 20 turnovers
They are both second tier quarterbacks with different strengths and weaknesses. They were both way inconsistent this year. Hard to believe they are physically the same size. Manning seems smaller to me.
What do you think the Giants chances are against the Packers?
Still a little too early in the week to say, I am growing more confident with the way the defense and eli keep playing but the packers are a great team. Weather and injuries are going to play a big factor.
I’ve give the Giants a 25% chance. If their D kills it they’ve got a shot.
Usually Less touchdowns, usually less yards, more ints, lower completion percentage and therefore lower qb rating is directly attributable to playing in a dome over the northeast. The only thing about those stats that jumps out at me is winning percentage. Especially considering how you Ryan is that’s a great winning percentage for his first four years.
Agreed. That’s a crazy winning percentage, and those teams haven’t exactly been stacked.
Exactly. I mean they have been good teams but nothing that really stands out in my mind to warrant that high of a winning %, which means we need to give him credit. As you pointed out the come from behind wins last year help him.
The other side of the argument could be that he hasn’t really had a bad team yet and this short into his career a year like last year at 13-3 really skews winning %